I am glad the concerning, to my knowledge, are very different in the way they present themselves. I find it a great reminder that we are all God's children and should treat everyone as such; believers or not.
Mus, atheism is a religion, and you use science to prove it, does that now mean your argument is inherently illogical? As for the big bang I went over some points in my first response to you that also support the big bang. We differ in the fact of who or what banged it. My answer is God, I am not going to put words in your mouth so I ask: What banged the big bang? As for the reason I know God started the universe, I already made that point, if it doesn't fit right with you I just pray that you think about it with a open heart, if your heart is truly open I am confident God will do the rest.
O' and Mus, I do not find you to be a betrayer, I urged for people to come up with question comments or concerns. So you did, this would be a one sided blog without the view point of the other side. [ For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow] James 1:3 you are just improving my faith.
Usra, I pray for you more if your goal is to betray: to harm or be disloyal to a country or another person, synonym to the word deceive, that is not a good quality to have no matter what religion you practice. Although you are not harming me as I told Mus you are improving my faith. I do find it interesting on what a synonym for betray is, deceive. I will leave it at that for I don't want to put words in your mouth either. How is it absurd to think that a more intellectually being was in involved in a manmade experiment, are we as humans not more intellectual than the organic matter being experimented on? Are you claiming you, as well as all scientists have no bias? If so I would love to know how you throw out the idea of God, with no proof. " But, we get to a point, before the Big Bang, where we don't know what happened." You admit you don't what happen yet you know I am wrong, how is that?
I will be praying for you both, pray that God will lay heavy on your hearts. There have been many of atheists who have found the light, realized it takes more faith to be an atheist then it does to be Christian, and I know there will be many more, just in my life time.
Don't pray for me, really. I don't need it. I make my own way in this life. Strength, honesty, friendship all come from within, I don't need something to constantly lean on like religion preaches to provide. Now, you went pretty in depth over me saying my goal was to betray you. I would really read a little harder. Nobody said the word betray, the word used was berate. So go look that up. Secondly, we admit we don't know what happened before the big bang. There is no evidence at this point to say what happened or how. So, we're not making a claim. You, on the other hand, are. you're saying god did it. So now, the burden of proof is on you. And you cannot meet that burden, and that's why it takes faith to believe in God. Because its not based on any facts. If it were, it would just be true. nobody would argue over it. Oh, and your comment that atheism is a religion. That will get you laughed at too. I did. Atheism is a LACK of religion. Nada. No faith, no doctrine. No belief. Merely a lack of all the above, a rejection of the claims you put forth. Saying atheism is a religion is like saying not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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Gah, Ursa, you beat me to it. The claim that God created everything is, like anything, a theory. a hypothesis, if you will. As such, it must be judged by the same criteria that ALL theories are judged by: evidence. You have no evidence to support God's creation of the universe. In your responses you've simply made the point that we don't know what came first. No piece of evidence you've supplied supports your beliefs. I'll return to my initial question, then: what proof do you have that supports intelligent design by God? And yes, I did use "berate" rather than "betray."
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